2 ectopics. Pregnant again- twinges.

Hello all,

A bit of background about me…

No children, 2 pregnancies- both ectopics. Nov 2014- keyhole surgery left tube removed. May 2015 the ectopic pregnancy was cornual in the stump of the left tube. Had methotrexate which didn’t work so had open surgery (laparotomy). Was found that it had ruptured.

3 months ago I had a HSG- the remaining right tube was found to be clear. However, I am aware that defects of the cilia do not show up with this test.

Today (15 dpo) I did a preg test with sensitivity of 25 iu/l which came up positive. Although it was faint, it was definitely there.

At 13 dpo I also did a test but thought it was negative. After today’s results I fished it out of the bin and could see it was a v v faint positive- very much a squinter though.

I immediately went to the GP and within 3 hours received my bHCG reading of 138.1.

I am feeling worried as I am getting pains in my right side (where my remaining tube is). It feels like a almost constant dull ‘stitch’ like pain radiating round to my back and to the right hand side of my groin.

Also I am worried about the preg test being so faint at 13 dpo and the blood hcg today at 15 dpo being 138.1.

I’m aware 138 is ok for 15 dpo and of course it’s the doubling that matters not the starting figure, but when I had my last ectopic my hcg readings were as follows:

13dpo: 120

15dpo: 180

17dpo: 310

Oops… pressed submit too soon by accident.

Anyway, tomorrow my husband and I are going away for a short break so I won’t be able to do another bHCG until Wednesday (exactly a week after the first one). And isn’t it typical that we’re going to a place where we were going to do lots of wine tasting! Ha ha. Glad I’m getting away though otherwise I’d be focusing on the pain and probably frantically googling things!

I was thinking, it’s a shame that as I’ve never experienced a normal pregnancy, when I found out today that I was pregnant, I had a small part of me that felt happy but the rest was fear.

I keep swinging through two emotions…

  1. what will be will be, don’t obsess, you can’t change anything, try to enjoy life and not feel stressed.

  2. Aaaaaah! I can’t cope with all the prodding and poking and another potential operation (the last one in particular was very traumatic for various reasons and I was in hospital for 2 weeks.

Has anyone else here only had ectopics (no previous children) but then gone on to have a healthy pregnancy?

I’m mainly worrying about the stitch like pain and the low hcg which is lower than the reading at 15 dpo last time.

Thanks for reading.

[Symptoms of ectopic pregnancy can be quite different. If you have any symptoms of ectopic pregnancy, contact your health care provider right away. The earlier an ectopic pregnancy is diagnosed and treated, the better.](http://motherhow.com/what-is-an-ectopic-pregnancy-signs-and-symptoms/)

Hi wanderer,

First, so sorry to hear that you had to go through 2 ectopics, including a traumatic surgery. I had one previous ectopic and am now in my second trimester with my first child, and I can relate to the feeling of happiness combined with a lot of fear when you discover that you’re pregnant again. I also had some small twinges/mild cramping early on with this pregnancy, and was told that this is normal (stretching of the uterus to make way for the growth of the sac), but it can be frightening, especially since I had cramps with the ectopic. I think it’s great that you’re getting away for a while, and like you say, the next HCG reading should give you a good idea of whether the pregnancy is progressing normally. I had a scan at 5 weeks with this pregnancy, and they were able to tell that it was in the uterus at that point, so hopefully you can have the same!

My thoughts are with you. Keep us updated.

Thanks for your replies ladies.

Adelahorn3 - I will definitely seek medical advice if the pain gets really bad but for the moment it’s just twinges, nothing crippling.

jvthe- congratulations on your pregnancy! Great that you could get a scan at 5 weeks to put your mind at rest.

With my last ectopic I had my first transvaginal scan about 5 weeks 3 days but nothing could be seen until a couple of days later. I believe that once the hcg is about 2000 then something should definitely show up.

Thanks again to you both.

Hello all,

I haven’t been on this forum in a while (as I felt like I would be tempting fate) but thought I would update as in the past I’ve read threads where the OP hasn’t updated and I’ve never known the outcome.

So today I am 17 weeks and 1 day pregnant.

Due date 3rd January 2017 but because of my previous ectopic operations I have to have a c-section so the midwife has said it’ll probably be about a week before that. I have my first hospital appointment on 10th August so maybe will find out more then.

Having anomaly scan and finding out gender in 3 weeks time.

Thanks again to everyone who offered their advice and support.

xxxx

Wanderer massive Congratulations to u :wink: im so pleasded uv got ur miracle preg. And I know how much more this must mean to after having two previous ectopics.

17 wks is a great mile stone n I really. I’m the rest of ur preg goes well. Im excited for u :wink:

I had a previous miscarriage at 11 wks preg n 5 months later I had either an ectopic or miscarriage at 7 wks preg ( docs called it a PUL as they are not sure what I had)

But I am now having a healthy baby girl n I’m 31 wks and 3 days preg.

So I am happy n I know how much we appreciate bein healthy preg now more then ever.

Look after uself n massive Congratulations again to u.

Princess Pink x x

I am due about 3 months before u on October 1st x x

Hi princess pink,

Thank you so much for your lovely reply.

As you say, being pregnant after experiencing losses makes it all the more special/miraculous.

Good luck with the last couple of months of your pregnancy. Not long now until you get to meet your baby girl! xxxx

Hey Wanderer? How are u do? How us ur preg going?

Sorry for late reply. … I been busy with meeting up with family n friends.n getting baby stuff ready n I don’t sleep well lately. Iv been waking up every hour or 2 for loo coz baby’s head is low down. Midwife told me when I last went on August 4th.

Yes it is def more magical and special to be healthy pregnant after experiencing losses.

Thank u… yea iv got 7 wks to go now.

Baby girl. Is so active alot of the time.

I hope all is going well with u n ur pregnancy n ur taking it easy as u can. X x

Hi Princess Pink,

All is going well with the pregnancy thank you.

Had the anomaly scan yesterday and all seems fine with baby’s health and we found out that we are having a boy.

Going to a baby show this weekend which will no doubt be mayhem! but hopefully we’ll be able to pick up some baby essentials.

My c-section is going to be scheduled at 37 weeks so around about the 13th December.

So your baby girl is pressing on your bladder ha ha. Keeping you up even before she is born hey!

I’ve only started feeling definite movements at 20 weeks (I have an anterior placenta so often movements are felt later)

7 weeks for you- so exciting! xxxx

Hey Wanderer,

I’m so pleased to hear all is going well with ur pregnancy. Wow how exciting to hear ur having a healthy little boy :wink: Now you can start to prepare in buying baby boy bits.

I didn’t get that much stuff before I found out baby’s sex but I did buy some unisex clothes n wen I found out I was having a girl I did buy alot of girlie clothes n stuff. Iv got most things but still need to buy some bits.

Yea iv got 6 wks and 2 days til due date.Yea My lil one has me up a llot thru tthe night needing the loo coz of the pressure isn’t funny coz im so tired alot n people say get ur sleep before baby is born whilst u can.

Everything is still going well with preg n baby moves n kicks alot. . It can make ne jump. Its fascinating to watch ur belly move so much. It makes u feel more reassured thou that baby’s ok.

So its great u are starting to feel baby moving n as time goes on ul feel him more.

I managed to film my baby moving in my belly to send to my twin sis… coz she hasn’t managed to feel her move yet.

Oh wow so u have a date to have a c section. How do you feel about that? Ul have ur baby just before Christmas will be extra special for u.

My birthday is December 23rd so its lovely to know il have my baby girl who will b a couple months old at xmas n my bday.

I hope u keep looking after urself n that ur pregnancy doesn’t give u too much discomfort.

Have fun at ur baby show :wink: x x

Hi Princess Pink,

So sorry for the delay in reply- so much has been happening lately.

In-laws came to visit and we did a mini tour of the country with them but have found out more news about this pregnancy…

One would think that after 2 ectopics (including the 2nd one in the stump of the removed tube) that I would’ve had my fair share of rare pregnancy related complications but NO!

I have grade 4 (total) placenta previa, plus a succenturiate placenta (placenta in 2 pieces) plus the most serious of all vasa previa.

All this means I’m going to be admitted to hospital from 28 weeks. I have to go to a tertiary hospital with more specialised facilities for this. This hospital is 2.5 hours drive away from my home. I’ll stay at the hospital between weeks 28-32 and then if nothing has happened in this time come back to my hometown hospital and have the c-section from 34 weeks.

I’m now almost 25 weeks pregnant so I just hope nothing untoward happens between now and my hospital admission.

Not long to go now for you! Hope you’re feeling good. xxxx

Hey Wanderer, it’s great to hear you and no worries.

I hope u enjoyed the time with ur in laws.

Im so sorry to hear about ur health problems with ur placenta. Iv heard of placenta previa but not of ur placenta bein split in two.

I’m glad for u thet have detected this allnow but IiI’m sorry for u that ul have to be admitted to hospital in a few weeks n have a early c section.

I hope rest of ur pregnancy carries on safe for u n ur baby. The main thing is they are keeping an eye on u n that u n ur baby are safe.

I hope ur taking it easy.

Yeah I’m near the end now. Im 38 wks pregnant n due in 2 wks today n I think im prepared with baby stuff but im feeling excited n nervous at same time n baby is still very active.

I’m getting impatient in my pregnancy coz I have spd so the groin pain is really painful n iv done something to my back on the lower left side a week ago which goes down in to my bum cheek n my leg n I struggle to walk n find it painful so iy makes me ji want my baby tp come so the pain will go n il b able to walk properly again.

But I know she will come when she is ready m even though I thought she would b early she could come late…

I’m up so much on the night to use the loo n feeling uncomfortable n I get braxton hicks alot.

I’m greatful to be 3rd time healthy preg n I guess near the end its normal to just want baby to be born.

I hope ur ok n that u and baby will continue to be healthy is main thing.

Wel both be mummies before the year is out n for Xmas time :wink: x x

Hi Princess Pink,

Only 2 weeks to go for you! Very exciting. You must be exhausted with the spd and back problems. Sounds very painful. Sending lots of positive vibes your way.

Yes, the vasa previa (VP) is the main concern (even though the complete placenta previa and the succenturiate placenta is bad enough and brings up its own issues).

With the VP, the baby’s vessels are exposed over the internal cervical os. They are very susceptible to rupture and if this happens the baby will bleed out and die within minutes. So even if I were in the hospital and this were to happen then it’s still quite touch and go but a lot better than having to drive to hospital as well. This is why they want to deliver so early as although there will be probably be prematurity issues, waiting around for the vessels to rupture is not really an option.

It’s just the whole uncertainty of it all… if I were to know, for example, that I wasn’t going to go into labour or rupture until say 37 weeks and 1 day then obviously I would have the c-section at 37 weeks but it’s all just a big unknown and balancing act.

Despite everything, I do feel very lucky as if this isn’t diagnosed antenatally then up to 95% of babies die. It is just so heartbreaking to think of this.

Hope you’re taking it easy as much as possible!

Lots of love. x

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Hey Wanderer, sorry for the late reply. Thank so much for ur kind words.

Omg the placenta health probs u have sound so serious n im so sorry to hear about it. I am however so glad they have detected this earlier on in ur pregnancy n I really hope all will be well with u n ur baby. I know u don’t want to be having ur baby early but obviously its what is needed if its going to save ur baby n that they can keep am eye on u n ur pregnancy by u going into hospital early.

I really hope ur able to stay preg for as long as possible n that u n ur bsby will be fine.

I’m praying for u n ur baby n for the rest of ur pregnancy to continue as healthy as possible.

I’m hear any time I want to talk or need support.

Yeah the spd n back probs are painful n starting to get me down. I haven’t beu out the flat since I came home from my twin sisters after stay for a couple of days on Friday. I wanted to spend time with her n her kids m especially my 18 yr old nephew who has moved away to uni so that was emotional but im proudof him n ewill see him again over Xmas in 3 months time…

I’m really struggling with walking n limping so I had to get a taxi for my 10 minutes walk from mine to train st.

I’m greatful to still be preg at 38+3 ( so im due in 11 days now) but coz of the pains im finding it hard n iv had cramp in my right leg ( it feels like period type cramps I use to get) its been hurting since 7am today n iv been resting n using a hot water bottle n now having a warm bath but can’t seem to shift it. O thinks maybe iv got the pain coz I hurt my back or maybe its coz baby is ge heavier n giving more pressure. Il mention it to my midwife wen I see her on Thurs.

Im praying for u n ur bubba n sending u lotsa love n hugs n im always here for u.

X x

Hi Princess Pink,

Thank you so much for your kind words- they mean a lot.

Sounds like you’re going through a really tough time. But not long at all until your daughter will be here. Hang on in there! The things we go through in pregnancy hey! But our previous losses means that we’re always grateful to be where we are.

Was your midwife able to shed any light on your leg cramps etc?

Lovely that you’ve been able to spend time with your family and your nephew before he went off to uni.

Not good that you’re confined to the house but try to enjoy it as much as possible and don’t feel guilty about watching rubbish on tv. :slight_smile:

Sending lots of positive thoughts your way. xxx

Hey wanderer, thanks alot for your kind reply :wink:

Yea ur so right that our previous losses does make us greatful to be where n having any difficulties in preg we’d go through again n again if it meant having a healthy baby at the end of it.

I saw another midwife yesterday (she’s the 4th one iv seen, they keep changing at my surgery)

My friend came with me for support as I don’t like going alone n my bf was working.

Anyway I told midwife re my leg cramps n my back pain iv had nearly 2 wks

… she just said it was all normal n coz of the pressure off the baby especially as she’s getting bigger n that it will go away wen baby’s born.

I got to listen to baby’s heart beat was nice n strong n she said everything seems fine. Baby is still head down m she said baby’s head is 2/5 or 3/5 engaged. But of course she couldn’t tell me wen il go in labour. …

Iv been booked in with midwife to go back in 2 wks on October 6th to have a sweep done n when il be 40+5 and then I’m booked in for an induction on October 13th ( even though im due October 1st, but its incase I go over due) which I hope doesn’t happen but u just never know.

Midwife said even thou im struggling to walk with my ba I should try walk a bit each day n be a bit active if I want baby to come soon coz as she put it 'baby ain’t going to come soon by me just lying on the sofa) il try that but its so painful to walk. Me n my friend were out for a show yesterday after my appointment walking around the shops n on my way home I had yo stop n sit on a bench for a while coz walking was too painful.

Thank u… I do watch alot.of rubbish on tv n trying to not feel guilty. Bf makes lil comments but he’s just trying to wind me up n I still do cleaning n some cooking at home wen I can.

It’s boring being home so much but im greatful to have family n friends visit me sometimes.

Yeah it was nice to spend time with my family n my nephew before he went to uni n I already can’t wait to see him st Xmas. Im just gutted he won’t meet baby as soon as she’s born.

Thanks so much for ur kind msg.

I hope u are feeling ok n I really hope the rest of ur preg continues aswell as possible.

Just think one day soon wel both be mummies n all the complications and or pains with pregnancy will be a distant memory.

I’m sending u hugs n positive vibes.

Princess Pink x x x

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