What was the outcome of your FIRST pregnancy after ectopic

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PLEASE READ THIS PARAGRAPH CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU PROCEED

Every loss to the woman who loses a pregnancy, is loosing her baby! At the Ectopic Pregnancy Trust we are very aware of that and also aware that this is a sensitive topic so please do not read this post further or participate if you feel unhappy to do so.

You can register any concerns or thoughts with ept@ectopic.org.uk

PLEASE DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE POLL IF YOU ARE CURRENTLY PREGNANT BUT WE’D BE VERY GRATEFUL IF YOU WOULD DO SO AFTER THE BIRTH OF YOUR BABY.

Over time we anticipate the poll will reflect more accurately the results that are held nationally but please remember that a great many people when they have had their babies move on from our services here so this poll is being conducted among those women who have yet to achieve their hopes in respect of a family and so you can expect the successful pregnancy levels to be lower to begin with .

As with all polls it’s about how you review the results and polls are not a substitute for properly conducted research but do act as a useful way of indicating trends and because of the way our site is used and the rate of ‘traffic’ through our sites and the fact it takes several months to concieve and then to deliver a baby after an ectopic pregnancy, this poll will have to run for at least 18 months before you can draw any conclusion from the percentage figure it produces against each of the poll criteria.

From our how long did it take you to become pregnant poll we have clearly established that the users of our site – have a higher than average success rate of conceiving within 6 months after their ectopic pregnancy however for more than 25% of women it can take longer than this and as long as 18 months –

The figure 18 Months was chosen so it would reflect the peer-reviewed research, which already exists

This poll is designed to establish the proportion of women who became pregnant and help determine the outcome of the FIRST pregnancy after ectopic.

Yet another frequently asked question here on our forums.

We have the research-based data and our hosts and staff quote it regularly but we believe the ‘real’ people who use our services would equally like to see the outcomes for the people who use this service provided by the EPT.

Please answer the question, which is

What was the outcome of your FIRST pregnancy after your ectopic pregnancy?

Successful Live Birth

Miscarriage before 12 weeks

Miscarriage after 12 weeks but before 28 weeks

Chemical Pregnancy

Ectopic Pregnancy

Other

If you answer other you are welcome to qualify this by adding to the thread and detailing the outcome of the pregnancy

We are aware that Neonatal Loss, Molar Pregnancy and perhaps others are not included in the list and want to be quite clear that we are in no way negating this loss - it’s simply that our polls will not allow more than 7 options and having included 6 already we didn’t wish to discriminate toward any other kind of loss

Every loss to the woman who loses a pregnancy is loosing her baby and we are very aware of that and also aware that this is a sensitive topic so please do not participate if you feel unhappy to do so and you can register any concerns or thoughts with ept@ectopic.org.uk

What was the outcome of your FIRST pregnancy after your ectopic pregnancy?
  • Successful Live Birth
  • Miscarriage before 12 weeks
  • Miscarriage after 12 weeks but before 28 weeks
  • Chemical Pregnancy
  • Ectopic Pregnancy
  • Other
0 voters
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Ive gone for other as Im 3 weeks off my due date,this pregnancy is 1st after a self resolving EP May 2005

Thanks for your vote fraggle but by doing that you have skewed the poll as I am guessing you will go on to have a lovely live baby where as, by voting the way you have, it looks like you have had a pregnancy loss … I am hoping we have understood that properly?
Unfortunately you can’t un vote and that’s the reason for noting this comment here so that others won’t do the same thing :smiley:
And a note to other mothers who are about to deliver please don’t participate in the poll until you can give an answer that will accurately reflect the outcome … we are expecting an outcome of about 55% (about 10% less than the national average) with positive out come of a healthy birth after ectopic as this is the national research based figure and to answer before you know the outcome will skew the poll and make the results inaccurate
Many thanks

Moderator

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Had EP1 on 3/3/06 with right tube removed. EP2 on 8/14/06 in left tube, treated with Methotrexate. Currently waiting for my creeping numbers to reach ZERO. UGH!!!

Maureen

Thank you for participating Maureen and we hope things settle for you soon.

Moderator

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I had a sucessful Live birth after 1st ectopic pregnancy, conceived my daughter within 3 month time frame.

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I think a lot of women who go on to have babies possibly won’t visit the forum anymore, therefore I suspect that this poll will not quite reflect reality.

Perhaps this site could send out an email to all its registered users asking them to take part in this poll. Altho maybe that might be upsetting for some people I don’t know. Just a thought.

Am just conscious of the fact that it looks grimmer than I had to been led to believe.

Thank you Tricia your comment is valuable but I regret the EPT has nothing like the resoucres to be able to process information which might be collected by email- over time we anticipate the poll will reflect more accurately the results that are held nationally
However we can already clearly see that there is no definative link between miscarriage and ectopic pregnancy which is something people try to connect over and over.
As with all polls it’s about how you review the results and polls are not a substitute for properly conducted research but do act as a useful way of indicating trends
The poll has been in place for less than 72 hours and it’s very early to be making an assumpton about the results so far with so few participants so please do not be too quick to draw a conclusion or assume that others will do the same

Moderator

Thanks for your comments…I’ll refrain from looking for a bitty I think :slight_smile:

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I have voted, but I just wanted to add that it does give an accurate picture - of the group of women who have taken part in the poll.

There will never be an accurate picture Tricia unless you poll every single woman who has ever had an ectopic and that’s not really feasible.

Andrea

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I have a feeling the results will be a bit off too.

So many ladies come here with their first EP and then have a sucessful pg and leave us, they are too busy looking after their new offspring.

Some stay but I suspect we lose more than we keep

Susie

This is a correct assumption the EPT has seen more than 16,000 people use our forums in the last 3 years however you will note that currently there are only just over 1000 registered with this message board - since it was opened in April - however - over time - the poll should reflect the national statistics

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I hope the explanatory paragraphs in the introductory text for this poll will help to explain why at this stage the ‘figures’ are not reflecting the national statistics

Over time we anticipate the poll will reflect more accurately the results that are held nationally but please remember that a great many people when they have had their babies move on from our services here so this poll is being conducted among those women who have yet to achieve their hopes in respect of a family and so you can expect the successful pregnancy levels to be lower to begin with .

As with all polls it’s about how you review the results and polls are not a substitute for properly conducted research but do act as a useful way of indicating trends and because of the way our site is used and the rate of ‘traffic’ through our sites and the fact it takes several months to concieve and then to deliver a baby after an ectopic pregnancy, this poll will have to run for at least 18 months before you can draw any conclusion from the percentage figure it produces against each of the poll criteria.

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help, can’t see where i can actually vote!

thanks,

catherine

Hello Catherine
I am so sorry but I have a suspicion that your ISP is one that uses a range of numbers between multiple users AOL do this so do certain other ISPs out there and this means though you may not have voted someone using the same ISP as you has done so already -
If what you see is a chart with purple bars on and a percentage figure by the side either someone from your PC or sharing your ISP in the way I have described above has already voted

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Hi there

My first post ep pregnancy was a missed miscarriage resolved by ERPC (or D&C however you describe it). At first it was wrongly diagnosed as an ep with a pseudosac but a laproscopy showed my tubes were clear (although I had an ovarian cyst which had been what showed on the scan I think). Eventually it was decided that the pregnancy had simply failed to develop (I was approx 10 weeks by this point). I waited a week to see if I would miscarry naturally, but my HSG continued to rise even though the baby was not growing so I was advised to have the pregnancy removed as apparently it could have turned molar. Not sure how this one figures on the list so voted other!

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Hi ALL,

Bit of info to add to my vote, my 2nd EP was 7 months after my first. I conceived on the 4th month of ttc. The EP was wrongly diagnosed initially as another miscarriage, but eventually treated with methotrexate at 7 and a half weeks, following a laparoscopy to locate it. It was located in the same tube that had been “removed”, which must have somehow become somewhat patent again.

Hope this helps.

Crissy

xxxx

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I have voted for mc as I had a mc after ep but I am now 27wks pg :smiley:

k

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Hi Izzie,

Soz to be a big pain but just wanted you to know I ticked the wrong box, should have ticked chemical pregnancy and I ticked m/c before 12 weeks.

My brain is even worse then usual!!!

The happy news is I am pregnant again and so far so good.

Love E xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks for letting us know unfortunately Izzie nor the administrators can make any changes to the poll and it will have to remain skewed
Unfortunately you can’t un vote but noting the comment here will allow us to know the figures are skewed and why so thanks for your honesty :smiley:

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i’m not voting now as i’m currently pg (praying i can vote for successful in 7 months!) - but i do have a question: i thought “chemical pregnancy” and “molar pregnancy” were the same thing? when my ep was misdiagnosed, these terms were used interchangeably by my (ex)-obsetrician. just wanted to clarify… thanks, jenna

Chemical Pregnancy and Molar Pregnancy are two very different conditions

What is a chemical pregnancy?

A chemical pregnancy is the clinical term used for a very early miscarriage. In many cases, the positive pregnancy test was achieved before the woman’s period was due but a miscarriage occurred before a heartbeat was able to be seen on an ultrasound.

With the ultra sensitive pregnancy tests on the market today, it is easier than ever to get a positive result 3 or 4 days before your period is due. It is wonderful for those who NEED to know, but does have it’s down side. Early testing shows chemical pregnancies which would not have been detected had the woman waited for her period to arrive.

Chemical pregnancies are unfortunately very common. 50 to 60% of first pregnancies end in miscarriage very early in pregnancy. Most occur without the woman even knowing that she was pregnant.

**What Causes a Chemical Pregnancy**

Most chemical pregnancies are due to chromosomal problems in the developing fetus. Other possible causes are inadequate uterine lining, uterine abnormalities both congenital or acquired like fibroids, low hormone levels, luteal phase defect or certain infections.

Molar Pregnancy

Molar pregnancies are an uncommon and very frightening complication of pregnancy. The formal medical term for a molar pregnancy is “hydatidiform mole.” Simply put, a molar pregnancy is an abnormality of the placenta (afterbirth), caused by a problem when the egg and sperm join together at fertilization. The following is a brief review of this complicated subject.

Types of Molar Pregnancy

There are two types of molar pregnancy, complete and partial. Complete molar pregnancies have only placental parts (there is no baby), and form when the sperm fertilizes an empty egg. Because the egg is empty, no baby is formed. The placenta grows and produces the pregnancy hormone, called HCG, so the patient thinks she is pregnant. Unfortunately, an ultrasound (sometimes called a sonogram) will show that there is no baby, only placenta. A partial mole occurs when 2 sperm fertilize an egg. Instead of forming twins, something goes wrong, leading to a pregnancy with an abnormal fetus and an abnormal placenta. The baby has too many chromosomes and almost always dies in the uterus. Thus, molar pregnancies are “accidents of nature” that are not anyone’s fault. They are not caused by behavior, but they are more common in older women and in certain geographic locations.

As you can see they are two entirely different conditions

Moderator

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I ticked the “live birth” option but in fact it was live BIRTHS (plural) as I had twins. Also, initially we were expecting 3 babies but we lost one by 9 weeks, so we were blessed with twins instead. Not sure if that matters or not… but thought I would mention it.

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Was going to vote as live birth.

But, I was expecting twins and lost one to a missed miscarriage somewhere between 6 and 12 weeks. Should i Vote as other?

Love Kathy

Kathy,
We are so sorry you lost one of your twins we don’t suppose its any help to you to know this is actually quite a common thing … the outcome of your first pregnancy was still technically, a successful live birth though - and for accuracy you’d need to vote that way because that’s what the poll asks - but that’s in no way negating the little one that you lost along the way :cry:

Moderator

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Although now i have a healthy 7 month old baby girl the outcome wasn’t easy as i had a prem birth of 3 mnths.

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Hi there! I can’t figure out how to vote exactly, only how to post this reply. So I will say that my first pregnancy after my ectopic resulted in a successful live birth. I was pregnant 4 months after my ectopic was treated with methotrexate.

Hope that helps.

Love,

Kay

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My first pregnancy after ectopic was a successful live birth, we started trying six months after my EP, and it took four months before I fell pregnant.

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bumping this up since theres been a few bubbas born lately

edit 14/10/07

OMG delighted to be updating this poll!